NCAA Regional Finals: The Death of “Electric” Atmosphere?

Posted by Jamie on February 10, 2010
NCAA Tournament, Opinion
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NCAA Basketball LogoAs the Northeast gets a foot of snow and the site of the 2010 Winter Olympics soaks in 50 degree weather, our blog overlord was caught reminising about last year’s Sweet 16/Elite 8 in the comment section of Brian’s earlier post.

In response to my comment that the NCAA has decided to hold future Regional Finals in domed stadiums, IBBW regular Vinnie linked to the future sites of the Sweet 16/Elite 8 through 2013, which clearly proves that I am a walking imbecile.

Kidding aside, a reliable source clued me into this development during last year’s Final Four in Detroit, but stated that it couldn’t happen until 2014 as the NCAA plans roughly 3 to 4 years in advance when it comes to NCAA Tournament Sites.

When I first learned about this potential atrocity, a ball of fury began to take over my body as I remembered the “electric atmosphere” of the prior weekend in Boston. Combine this loss of excitement with the awful sight lines at the 2009 Final Four in Detroit, and you have another example of how the NCAA is “all about the money.”

However, after taking Vinnie’s comments into account about the feasibility of 4 Domed Regional Sites occuring (that’s East, West, South and Midwest for all you geography majors out there) I decided to do a little research into how the NCAA could carry out their master plan.

From what I can find, here are the breakdowns of the regions and their respective domes. Before getting to the list, its important to point out that apparently the NCAA is very liberal when it comes to their geographical placement of certain domes. Take for instance that in 2013, Cowboys Stadium is placed in the “South” Regional but in 2011, the Alamodome is placed in the “Midwest” Regional. Yes, I am ashamed to admit that I did a double-take and broke out Google Maps to ensure my head didn’t explode. For sanity sake, I correctly placed these two according to the information we know, but it wouldn’t shock me if the NCAA pulled these antics again if it meant bringing them closer to their ultimate goal of 4 sites in domes. Also, I included baseball stadiums that have retractable roofs as well.

Now to the list:

East (1): Syracuse, NY (Carrier Dome)

West(4): Glendale, AZ (University of Phoenix Stadium), Chase Field (AZ), Safeco Field (Seattle), Tacoma Dome (WA) – didn’t know this existed

South, Southeast (3ish): Marlins ballpark (new stadium, eta 2011), Tropicana Field (Tampa) and the Georgia Dome

Midwest (10): Cowboys Stadium, Lucas Oil Stadium (Indy), Alamodome (San Antonio), Reliant Stadium (Houston), Ford Field, Edward Jones Dome (St. Louis),  Superdome (New Orleans), Metrodome (Minny), Minute Maid Park (Houston), Miller Park (Milwaukee)…. I’d include the Astrodome but it looks like that place is finished.

Ok. So now where were we? Oh yeah can this happen.

Judging by the looks of it, the only problem would be in the East as the Carrier Dome is the only dome on the Eastern Seaboard. Hypothetically, an all domed affair with the final 16 teams can happen at least one year and I fully suspect that the NCAA will eventually try this out at some point in the next 5 years. The obvious problem is how does the NCAA make as much money as they do with Domed Regional Final locations in subsequent years that the Carrier Dome is used? This brings us back to Vinnie’s original point…..unless the NCAA makes up specific Regions/Locations as they go along (which they’ve done in the past) and include say Tampa or Atlanta as the East because they reside on the Eastern part of the country…..then the quest for maximum profit falls short.

However, with talk of a 96 team field growing daily, the mecca of basketball has expressed interest in hosting a Regional Final as the NIT would become even more irrelevant. Yes I do realize that MSG is in fact, not a dome. But, I have a sneaking suspicion that the NCAA wouldn’t mind having the country’s largest media outlet as its outlier.

On a side note, please don’t try and convince me that the shithole that is Continental Airlines Arena  or whatever the hell its called is considered the same location as MSG. Same with the Prudential Center (which I hear is nice, never been). Newark is Newark people. Glad we cleared that up.

Now, if the “World’s Most Famous Arena” were to host a Regional Final or gasp a Final Four, I think I’d wet myself. We all have had the pleasure of witnessing the heroics of the Big East Tournament at MSG every March, and I’m sure everyone would be on board with this decision. I’ve gotta be honest, the thought of a Villanova team winning either the East Regional or the National Championship at the corner of 33rd & 8th tickles my fancy.

Until someone convinces me otherwise, this would be my ideal situation. If my source is as accurate as I believe, the movement to an all out dome fest is fast approaching over the horizon. Will the NCAA do the smart thing and accept MSG’s bid? We’ll have to wait and see.

Do you think any of this will happen or better yet do you think it matters? Do you even care?

Let the debate commence in the comments.

11 Comments to NCAA Regional Finals: The Death of “Electric” Atmosphere?

Vinnie
February 11, 2010

As a matter of fact, Jamie, the NCAA has used Atlanta as an East Regional Final site in 1996 and a sub-regional site in 1990. They’ve also used Miami as an East Regional Final site in 1994.

I dont see them moving to baseball-only stadiums like Chase or Safeco though – the way the seats are laid out it wouldnt make for good viewing angles.

Chris
February 11, 2010

Good work Jamie. I know that’s what you wanted to hear…ha

Ken
February 11, 2010

Well done Jamie.

I agree with Vinny that if the NCAA is serious about this dome thing they will have to get ATL more seriously involved.

I would be very dissapointed with the NCAA if they went to a dome system like this as I am big fan of the more personal and traditional arenas. There is something to be said for 20k fans close to the action tied to every movement instead of 60+ mostly corporate people who may or may not care about the outcome.

As for MSG I would love to see the NCAA make it a mainstay in their tournament for both personal reasons (Living in NY or Jersey with my parents… close enough) and that there is no better place to watch a basketball game. Even for the NIT the place is rocking I cant imagine what it would be like for an elite 8 or higher.

For all you guys out there who are worried what the NCAA will do, Im certain our president will way in on this earth shattering issue. Im sure he will take time from his schedule to comment and then propose a solution in congress probally right around the time he picks his bracket on tv.

Chris
February 11, 2010

I’m pretty sure Barry would be a fan of the ‘everybody gets a ribbon’ policy.

Although he is a big sports fan so he might shock us all and say this sucks.

Vinnie
February 11, 2010

The irony of this year’s F4 being held in the “Lucas Oil Drum” in Indy is that about 3 blocks away is Conseco Fieldhouse, one of the best basketball arenas in the country if not THE best.

Chris
February 11, 2010

Agreed Vinnie. I was talking to a co-worker about that the other day. It’s sad.

Andrew
February 11, 2010

Anyone who thinks playing basketball in football stadiums is good for the average fan (with the exception of lower ticket prices for nosebleed seats with views comparable of watching your 19″ low def from out on your front lawn) is crazy. Sadly, the NCAA is going to do what gets them paid. Any NCAA tournament games at the Garden would be epic; I believe having a regional final here would set all time records for individual ticket prices.

We have to remember this is the same organization that established the BCS and just pray that the same idiot who invented this doesn’t cancel the tournament and have the top 20 teams play each other once and have the computer determine the overall winner.

The tournament is phenomenal as it is; it is undoubtedly the best sporting event in the world. And the venues now are a good balance of ticket revenue vs fan friendly environments (JP I first hand saw that you enjoyed Boston last year, regardless of if you can personally remember any of it). Here’s to hoping that the wrong people stop getting greedy and just let it be as is.

Jamie
February 11, 2010

I may or may not have jumped into the band section after Scottie made his game winning shot against Pitt.

Vinnie – I threw the baseball stadiums in there more as a “what if” scenario… i don’t seriously think they’d do that. The main thing that I’ve learned the more i research this mess is that IF the NCAA wants to do this, they’ll make it happen. If that means they make one of the Texas sites a “West” Regional Final site or as they did in the past one of the South sites an East Regional site……then from their perspective I’m sure they are saying, “so be it.”

Chris
February 11, 2010

I got on the floor for about 2 seconds in Boston before I was escorted off. Got you beat JP.

Jamie
February 11, 2010

Still amazes me that we didn’t rush the court

Vinnie
February 11, 2010

I was in the nosebleeds in Boston. I was so pumped I ran out of the arena screaming my head off and i totally forgot about the net-cutting ceremony.

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